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A dog with no head (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

That makes no sense....











That dog clearly has a work bench for a head

I think it's an Audi. Or am I missing what I am supposed to be looking at? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Bottom left second picture (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Is it a workshop with a metre clearance on all sides for a Dodge Dart??? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

have you been drinking early...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Tesco value bodykit?

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Read the rest of my post (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Well, I personally wouldn't use OSB board outside in a hurry so I'm guessing it's not exposed to the elements.

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The 2x3's aren't cut perfectly flush with the upright boards, and, given the excellent finish of the last project, would lead me to believe that these won't be on show - at least not in their current form.

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To be honest - it looks like shuttering at the moment.

2''x3''....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)


this is a small 3 in 1 oil can...
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Pretty sure its wood....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/security.gif)

You're giving me wood....

You mean a small oil can ain't 12" high ? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Looked bigger than that.

Could still be shuttering but it's a little diddy. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

The size is deceptive because of the relatively low angle the photo is taken at... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

MEH.... I AM LOW TO THE GROUND....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

that what the subtle joke was... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)

here the dogs head, after hes been in the used bbq charcoal...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Jeeze them eyes make him look like some of Android (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Or should that be Dogdroid (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

hes a hemorrhoid at times....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

They do say pets look like their owners (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/taunt.gif)

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'ere Art, looks like its been at your special brew!

some cuttin


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and gluing

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Epic glue spooge !

Looks like PVA so I stand by my "non exterior" theory.

Is it going to be a Really Long Piece of Wood?

a further useless clue...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Are you putting all back together to try and make a tree....?(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Spice rack

I reckon he's rebuilding the floorpan on that Dodge... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

things are changing...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Redkneck Post Lift.....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)

What's that wheel from? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)

its a jeep wheel....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)



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Hang on are we going backwards? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/huh.gif)

I thought you had already removed the stump thing? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)




Didn't know you had one.. Post some pictures here please:

http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=11120&page=0#16

ive got two .....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)



jeep  wheels ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I'm guessing its home brew based.....

its goin up in the world...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Is it a giant version of Mousetrap? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Those bits are metal...

I reckon its a cider press!

A Gallows for the Village Idiot (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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its welded metal too...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)

Did i win?

Your other thread gave it away btw (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

you wish....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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A bird table, for a fecking large bird!

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Carport ?

Framework to hold a miniture flag ?

an engine hoist frame?

it looks like thats Art's neighbours "patriotism" thats shown in that pic...

No blue strobe on top though... thats just 1/2 arsed... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

no... its my flag pole ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)

mrs b wasnt too keen on the aircraft strobe though...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)


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the bigger picture.....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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a poorly constructed car port? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Its a car port!

taa daa ....


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Port Car!

I mean, CAR PORT!

Trailer port!   (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)

So Art, hows the Car Port, trailer port fairing in these fair winds?

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pretty good ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)


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looks pretty grim in sweaty sockland....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/sad.gif)
160+ mph winds onthe cairngorm's....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)

i have skied in 60mph winds there, and part way down the mountains you were blown to a standstill(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16079849

On a serious note those timber purlins look incredibly flimsy considering their centres are so great.

Add 6" of snow and I don't think they'll last long. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)

a good point ..
they are they are 4'' deep glued and screwed to the batten s[ as in a laminated i beam] and doubled up where they sit on the 3x3 steel box,

i have hung ten stone of me, in the middle of each of them and there at 650mm centres......
there is always an option to strenghten from underneath

time will tell...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I see you're using corrugated roofing, I will now share the only think I know about corrugated roofing.

'Always drill/nail/pin down corrugated sheet in the hills, not the valleys'

But I'm sure you knew that already! (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The centres look more than that on the photo so maybe not so bad.  Remember though that a long-term imposed load will often do more damage than a short term one.

Off the top of my head a common allowance when calculating loadings regarding snow is 25kg/m2 (especially a "flat" roof) . . . . Doesn't sound a lot but times that by the total area of the roof and you'll quickly be talking over half a ton/tonne.

How come? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Water sits in the valleys..blah blah..rust.  well that's my guess (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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the valleys are just that,
the place where the water collects and runs off.....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Edit - Never mind.

Ah right..

MKB 'knowledge in every crevice' (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif)

MKB =

MORE KREVICE BANTER....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Case in Point...

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the sheeting is all on and waterproof,
the immense winds about 60mph gusts are giving it a good workout at the moment,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
a couple of the longer beams are flexing/lifting so may have to be strengthened..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)


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heres a pic with a view [for cp]of our local vw srapyard..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I was just going to say I can't believe how many Wedges he has now (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)



So, what actually will this be? A huge car-port? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I count two and a half...

yup 2 and a part built trailer and another elsewhere...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

he had sold the white un on ebay, the guy came to collect from glasgow(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
and....
the van decided on the test drive, to start spewing oil from the head oil return pipes....they were both gutted..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vw-t25-camper-van-project-not-t2-t4-t5-12-months-mot-6-months-tax-/140648861393?pt=UK_Campers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item20bf534ed1#ht_1122wt_1335

Good luck when they come and re-assess your house for council tax.  One of the rumoured changes is that more parking spaces means higher tax band.(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/down.gif)

We've put scalpings down across our entire front yard (was a driveway with grass on one side) if they try and re-assess it as more parking area we'll just say its a really really low rockery... that you can drive on. Sorted!

i'll not worry ive got an old fifties garage to come down,

and this will be a shed(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

it will morf into a workshop eventually ,to replace my rotten 55 yr old concrete gargage

mm, I'm with Dean on this one, I'd get some more strength in those joists, sterling board will bend under weight then you'll end up with dips, followed by lakes and eventually rain!! Inside.

i have a cunning plan..[not that one] to add some sprung bracing to the longer lengths...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I didn't know I was helping (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/huh.gif)



ahh (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Hard to tell on the picture but there appears to be no real incline to run the water off (I think my "shed" was 2.5* - which works nicely) ?

As it butts up to your fence are you running the water off the front into a gutter ?



I'd be more worried about the planning/building consent for now - it's quite visable and if anyone happens to take offense a quick call to the council would be an annoyance.
On the plus side it is entirely within your boundaries and below fence level so planning, I wouldn't think, would be a problem but I'd bet my salary that any building inspector would fail those timber purlins.  My Dad made a carport in the 80's and he had to have 2x8's spaced at 16" centres and from memory the max. span was only 6' !!!
The other issue they'd raise is drainage - there's laws now preventing even a driveway being relaid without suitable ACO channels and drainage !!

It'll be a good amount of space when you're done though - the best projects are those that end up giving you more useable space.  (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

all points i researched b4 designing ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

a friend of my[ builder ]brother, who is a bco told me that planning laws have been relaxed recently,2008

and structures under 2.4 meters and not attatched to a dwelling are now exempt from planning,
unless ur in the garden,the whole thing due to where it placed, behind the fences and electric gate,and with our gaff at the top of a hill is invisible, apart from in the air,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

the drainage is not so bad as the roof drainage from the house runs nearby, or i may dig a soak away...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

i was also told due to cuts the local bco department cant even keep up with their work load and dont have time to worry about people paving over their drives...

for me if push comes to shove my shelter will be a shed as there will be no drive up to it...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

i hear what ur sayin ray...its a bit trial and error  (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

the osb is glued to the timber and then the whole lot of it has been treated with water proofed stain,
hence its yellow hue, it was quite white when new(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

will be looking at strengthening the 6 longer spans those over 2m
the rest are under 2m..
i used OSB beams to prevent twisting,warping and shrinkage and it also keeps the weight down on the steels..
they are also easy to transport and cheap to make,

after seeing them in the construction industry replacing timber joists heres where i knicked my ideas from....
     
      http://www.ijoistflooring.co.uk/

theyre using these beams in major timber frame houses too now. cheap and easy to make, but prety stong in the right direction

a smart idea from the states,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
where they love a wooden house....
but so do termites....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)

due to its location a very discrete shed......(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)


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Very true and I've used them.  

But each is rated for a particular job/loading/Moisture rating etc . . . . Making your own is like using ungraded timber in construction - it may be O.K but you can't prove it.

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The council will (likely) argue the drainage/soak away for the house is only rated for "one house" so they're likely to insist on a soak away - which is a P.O.P to do.

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As I say, awesome project.  T'is a pity I don't have more land.

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lol... i didn't say it was right (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Are you going to reinforce the green wooden fence on top of the brick wall?

I am just thinking if some kids walk down there banging the fence (as what used to happen in Bletchley every day, every night (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/mad.gif)) and a pannel falls off - will they just be able to see into your shed with all your tools laying out? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/nono.gif)

This may sound a bit negative, but I am just trying to help. I am sure you have already thought of this though (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Good skills Art, keep the pictures coming!

Finish before Xmas? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

That looks sweet!

Been thinking about putting some ideas into motion for making a carport detached from the house in our front garden to sit the Mustang and Camaro under. The only issue I thought we'd have would be the planning but if you reckon non-attached items don't need it, I reckon we could be in there!

check up with a bco locally andy...
im not sure a ''front garden'' would be suitable...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)

I think putting it out front you'd definately need to consult a planning officer, first.

fyi....

the roof coped well with 4'' of snow... twice....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

but i will be adding additional stength on the longest spans,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)