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Sammy's managed to wangle a product test of Lakeland's beer making kit.
I get the starter kit (bucket, siphon tube, spoon, steriliser and keg) and a Beer kit which makes up to 40 Pints.
I just have to make comments regarding the instructions and kit contents and take pictures.
Score !!
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I'll See how this one goes but I think I can see me making a hobby of this.
Especially if someone else is paying for it !!!
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Quoting: Roadkill
Sammy's managed to wangle a product test of Lakeland's beer making kit.
I was eyeing that up last time I was in there. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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is it a two can kit ...?
here are some pointers to a successful beer ..
http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=34384
Quoting: Incursus
I was eyeing that up last time I was in there.
Hold fire as I've already made various negative comments on it (no thermometer, no hydrometer, no rigid syphon tube / racking cane and instructions contradict themselves).
Quoting: art b
is it a two can kit ...?
Yup, 2 cans of malty tar-like goodness.
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: art b
is it a two can kit ...?
Yup, 2 cans of malty tar-like goodness.
they are the best kits ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
adding plain sugar is the one thing that gives the beer a grim twang...
Really ?
It asks for 80g of brewers sugar before transferring it into the barrel . . . ?
Quoting: Roadkill
no thermometer, no hydrometer, no rigid syphon tube / racking cane and instructions contradict themselves).
Probably no bottles either?
Quoting: Roadkill
Really ?
It asks for 80g of brewers sugar before transferring it into the barrel . . . ?
brewers sugar is a different type of sugar to cane sugar, and is good to give the beer body....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Probably no bottles either?
No, but you do get a pressure keg.
Quoting: art b
brewers sugar is a different type of sugar to cane sugar, and is good to give the beer body....
So adding 80g as the instructions say is good, yeah ?
EDIT -
Art - Would you say a hydrometer is essential ? I'm considering picking one up. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
So then Dean, have you thought of any Names for your Beer yet?
Other than "Free Beer No.1" (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
EDIT -
Art - Would you say a hydrometer is essential ? I'm considering picking one u
tbh i have one but dont use it,
it can be used to tell you when fermentation is complete,
but i leave the brew to ferment for 3 weeks then its clear and complete,
the hydro can be used for getting the abv,
wit a calculation from the start of fermentation[original gravity ] to the end of fermentation final gravity] if you so wish with a calculation,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_(alcoholic_beverage)tbh ...i just make it and drink it ....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
The kit I've got says to leave it fermenting up to 1009 gravity, then barrel with sugar and leave for another 4 weeks (ideally) . . . It's a bottle conditioned jobbie.
Not sure if this is the norm for home brewing or not ?? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Probably no bottles either?
Time to start drinking Grolsch now before the impending arrival....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Tried Grolsch once. Tastes like feet. Never again. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
The kit I've got says to leave it fermenting up to 1009 gravity, then barrel with sugar and leave for another 4 weeks (ideally) . . . It's a bottle conditioned jobbie.
Not sure if this is the norm for home brewing or not ??
beers ferment then need time for the yeast to slow down drop out and the beer will clear, so 3 weeks in the fermenter will ensure this happens,
time is the key to a good beer ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
the kits give unrealistic instructions,
to make it look more likely to get a finished product sooner ... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
So you reckon leave it in the bucket for 3 weeks, then. What about once it's had the sugar added and is in the barrel / bottles ?
yup 2 weeks is ok,
i always go for 3,
carbonate in bottle /barrel in a warm place for 4 days then move some where cold for a couple of weeks..
then start test drinking... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
btw
this weather at the moment is not a good time to brew beers,
the beer needs to be brewed at around 18-20 deg,
the ambient temp of the cabinet i brew in is 24+ during the day thats in a north facing kitchen,
fermenting produces heat and it willl rise to around 26-28 ,
this will cause a fast ferment with the yeast causing all sorts of strange off flavours..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
No, but you do get a pressure keg.
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Works well for me, just decanted another 2 litres of fruit Cider to put into the fridge (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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And I just decanted a couple of litres into myself.....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Quoting: Roadkill
I get the starter kit (bucket, siphon tube, spoon, steriliser and keg) and a Beer kit which makes up to 40 Pints.
So assuming you manage to produce a half decent beer, and to be fair I've had passable beers from an all in one just add water jobbie, the whole kit and caboodle (minus bottles and sugar) works out at around £65?
Which make 40 pints...almost paid for itself after the 1st use then... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
How long will the beer keep in the keg? (EDIT: nevermind obviously you'd bottle it and start on the next batch anyway (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/grin.gif) )
How do I convince Katie to let me take over the spare room? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Throw chocolate at her...
Quoting: Incursus
works out at around £65?
Dunno what Lakelands sell it for. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Have a look on eBay as they do the bits you need on there cheaper . . . basically you need a 25L fermentation bucket (in the kit).
The kit gives you a keg, too, but it's not ideal - if this batch goes good I'll skip the keg and go straight to bottling.
The other bits you need is a spoon (in the kit), tubing (in the kit) and Cleaner-stuff.
I'll be buying a hydrometer, personally (NOT in kit) and I have a suitable thermometer already.
If the first batch goes good I'll invest a little more in the kit next time around.
EDIT -
Also wait for cooler weather !!!
My kit says to keep it between 17 - 25*C but during the day the garage (coolest place in the house) sits at around 26*C !
Not much I can do about that . . . last night was cooler . . I'd guess about 30% of the day was above 25*C so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Quoting: Roadkill
Dunno what Lakelands sell it for
Yeah for the Equipment Kit and one of the cheaper Ale Beer kits.
Quoting: Roadkill
Have a look on eBay as they do the bits you need on there cheaper . . . basically you need a 25L fermentation bucket (in the kit).
The kit gives you a keg, too, but it's not ideal - if this batch goes good I'll skip the keg and go straight to bottling.
Fair doos.
EDIT: Very quick search on EBay -
Seems to cover most things..
quick tips..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
dont buy the cheapest kit..
there are some great kits out there ..but there not the cheapest.
use brewing sugar,
temp is very important,
most Tescos have HB kit on sale,
be patient
sanitize everything..
22 litre pet bottles are good
beer will keep in a keg for 5 months...with co2 added as it drains
make wine/cider/ for gurls..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: art b
beer will keep in a keg for 5 months...with co2 added as it drains
Is that temperature dependent ?
Quoting: Roadkill
Is that temperature dependent ?
not really
i keep the keg in our kitchen [usually quite cool]and its room temp beer,
no nasties can get in and the co2 and alcohol will preserve it...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: art b
dont buy the cheapest kit..
there are some great kits out there ..but there not the cheapest
Do you mean the equipment kit or the Beer kit itself?
What should I avoid/look out for equipment wise?
How much is the smell going to annoy Katie? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Mine doesn't smell too bad yet . . . mixing the wort got a bit pongy but after pitching the yeast it seems to have calmed down.
Art - How do you add CO2 - by those little capsules I've seen ?
Definitely spend money on the beer kit itself . . . the equipment is fundamentally a plastic bucket . . . No major differences, there.
Quoting: Incursus
So assuming you manage to produce a half decent beer, and to be fair I've had passable beers from an all in one just add water jobbie, the whole kit and caboodle (minus bottles and sugar) works out at around £65?
thb its like most hobbys..dont spend shit loads on goodies..until you know its for you ..
most people dont brew after the initial .''.it seems easy to make beer'',(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) or if the 1st one fails..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/sad.gif)
its mianly about the ingredients temp and sanitation,
buy...
the best beer kit [ 2 can kit] £20-£30
a brewing bucket £8
a syphon tube £5.00
and bottle into plastic ,£0
£40 and your up and running....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
see how it comes out and how tricky it is ...[not very]
then buy more stuff...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
its not all about making cheap grog...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
but a skill to improve until you have a beer thats better than most pub beer and its also cheap as chips[ which are quite expensive these days..]
I was toying with the idea of getting a bucket with a tap with an air lock (this is the type my Dad had in his home-brewing days).
Like
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-Litre-Fermenting-Bucket-For-Home-Brew-Beer-with-Tap-Lid-Handle-Scale-/181175072552?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Food_SM&hash=item2a2ee03728The bucket with the Lakelands kit just relies on you "cracking the lid" on the bucket every-now-and-then to release pressure. Seem a bit cheap.
Plus the tap negates the need for syphons and tubes.
Your opinion, Art ?
Quoting: art b
and bottle into plastic ,£0
..hmm need to find someone that drinks fizzy pop (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Screw-top wine bottles work, too. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
How much is the smell going to annoy Katie?
I think you've been living with her long enough that brewing beer smells are the least of her worries... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/fart2.gif)
jeeez Louise.....
Quoting: Roadkill
Art - How do you add CO2 - by those little capsules I've seen ?
Definitely spend money on the beer kit itself . . . the equipment is fundamentally a plastic bucket . . . No major differences, there.
yes you need to top up the keg with co2, to prevent a vacum forming and air being pulled up through the tap...
yup a bucket is a bucket, the lid can be loosely fitted its only to keep derbris and flys out...you can even cover the top with a tea towel,
Quoting: Roadkill
I was toying with the idea of getting a bucket with a tap with an air lock (this is the type my Dad had in his home-brewing days).
you need to syphon the beer without introducing air, so if you have a tap you still need a tube or a'' little bottler...see'' ebay
Quoting: Incursus
..hmm need to find someone that drinks fizzy pop
a stroll on recycling nite will produce all you need , (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Screw-top wine bottles work, too.
wrong ...wine bottles are not made to take the pressure...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/down.gif)
Really ?
Fair enough.
Sammy picked up 6 glass beer bottles, caps, a capping machine, brewers sugar and has ordered in a Hydrometer (all free - in the name of product testing !!)
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Quoting: Roadkill
Really ?
yup wine isn't carbonated...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
a plastic pop bottle will be good for around 100psi
a wine bottle won't
sammys doing well...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
she needs to try a wine kit too....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
She doesn't really drink that much, now . . . plus it'd be down to me to do all the work.
Nah. If I'm gonna do it I'll concentrate 100% on Beer-making . . . I feel that is my path. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Quoting: art b
a woodfordes wherry is a good, easy to do beer kit...
yeah I was looking at that one, added it to my wish list (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Good news !
With the cooler weather the garage (Brewery) is now a much happier temperature.
BTW
Lakeland's sell their bottles for around £1 each (6 for £5.99) but I've found them on eBay for less (100 for £45 inc. P&P).
Started saving beer bottles...hic (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
BTW
Lakeland's sell their bottles for around £1 each (6 for £5.99) but I've found them on eBay for less (100 for £45 inc. P&P).
there free at the pub...
all pubs has to pay to dispose of their empties,
a quick word with the right person [ryan springs to mind ] and you will have enough to last a lifetime...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
i asked at our local 2 years ago and i got 50 wine bottles one weekend....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
and every time i poppped in there was a box behind the bar with 500 ml cider bottles in it waiting...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Hmm. I'll have a word . . .
Quoting: F Body
Works well for me, just decanted another 2 litres of fruit Cider to put into the fridge
what cider is it marti ....a fruit kit one....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
is it any good ..?
its funny,
how most forums im on now have a brewing section..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: art b
its funny,
how most forums im on now have a brewing section.
It should be mandatory, in my opinion . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
With the cooler weather the garage (Brewery) is now a much happier temperature.
you can stand the fv in a water bath to regulate the temp...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
with an aquarium heater added to brew when it gets colder.....again (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
It's been just over a week, now, in the bucket . . . hopefully Sammy's picking up a hydrometer today so I'll give it a test tonight and go from there . . .
(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif) I've bagged a space in a cupboard upstairs but not going to start anything till after the Kitchens done, I've got the report on how yours turned out..oh and I've 100% talked my way out of going to China for a large chunk of August (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
It's been just over a week, now, in the bucket . . . hopefully Sammy's picking up a hydrometer today so I'll give it a test tonight and go from there . . .
give it a minimum of 2 weeks...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
im just sorting out a recipie and grain for the brighton brew..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Alriiiiight . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
I'll wait. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Sammy got a Hydrometer from work but I've just purchased a 100ml glass trail jar off of eBay for testing.
Also picked up a rigid syphon tube, clip and tap for when it comes to barreling . . .
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Think I'm all set, now.
Just the wait, now . . . .
Clear Bottles are being stockpiled for you at the Pub Dean.
Quoting: Roadkill
Sammy got a Hydrometer from work but I've just purchased a 100ml glass trail jar off of eBay for testing.
you can put the hydro in the beer and leave it there, if you have no other use for it ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Clear Bottles are being stockpiled for you at the Pub Dean.
there ya go ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
btw
brown bottles are better for beers,
as some beers can become light struck ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Store them in a box?...
Up to 20 Clear Bulmers bottles since Tuesday when i made the request, should have the 40 requested by next weekend.
if you want brown ones you'll probably have 40 by Monday (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
If Art says "Brown bottles" I'd better go for brown bottles !
Thanks, Ryan !
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the brown bulmers bottles ae good, very strong,easy to cap
and hold 5ooml (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
If Art says "Brown bottles" I'd better go for brown bottles !
Thanks, Ryan !
Really?
Ok, i'll change the request at the Pub.
Quoting: FUBAR
Really?
Ok, i'll change the request at the Pub.
you hand over the empty bottles ...then you can have some full ones back for taste testing..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
I'll bow to Art's experience on the subject.
I'd still prefer Clear bottles, though . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
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save a few bottles for the brighton taste testing...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
2 weeks in the bucket tomorrow . . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
waiting...thats the hard part over (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
whats the hydro reading....?
Quoting: art b
whats the hydro reading....?
Not checked it yet - what sort of numbers should I be expecting ?
Quoting: Roadkill
Not checked it yet - what sort of numbers should I be expecting ?
depending on the kit,.. and the SG [1040]
it will be around 1010 or nearby when ready to bottle...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
It's about 1011 - 1012 . . the kit says 1009 +/- 2 points so I reckon I'm just about in . .
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yup ....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
id get stuff ready/cleaned and bottle on fri or sat ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
I ended up barreling it last night as I had a bit of free time and I'm not too sure how this weekend's gonna pan out just yet . . .
So I've got a few bottles (so Sammy can take some into work for her boss - can't complain as it's all been basically free so far !) . . . the rest went in the barrel (I figured it simpler for my first batch).
Instructions say wait for 4 weeks to mature.
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That's gonna be tough !
Think I'm gonna get another batch in the bucket in the next week or so . . . start a production line going.
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Reckon I've got 36-37 pints in the barrel.
Art, how long do you reckon it'll last without CO2 once the drinking begins ?
you can have one of your own free beers at the weekend...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
after a few days in the barrel,[in a warmish place, no worries in this weather ]
then leave it outside over nite to chlll a bit,
it will be time to have a trial half to see how it tastes and if its carbonating ,...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
this will give you an idea of the taste ..
it should be good......(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
look for any off tastes it may be a bit yeasty...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
then it will improve with time,
there is no real science to the maturing,
some beers are great as soon as there brewed ,
[most pub beers are around 3 weeks old,
but they do have a lot of complicated methods to get their product done and sold,]
others beers are best when you drink the last pint (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
You should get at least half way through the barrel,
before it needs a top up of co2 ..or you may get away with using none at all, it depends on how much co2 the beer is producing...
good luck with the tasting (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Quoting: art b
You should get at least half way through the barrel,
before it needs a top up of co2 ..or you may get away with using none at all, it depends on how much co2 the beer is producing...
How will I know if I need to add CO2 ? Will there be a vacuum in the barrel ?
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Quoting: art b
you can have one of your own free beers at the weekend..
COOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
How will I know if I need to add CO2 ? Will there be a vacuum in the barrel ?
it will slow down when you pour it as there will be less pressure....
it will eventually form a vacuum, and pull air in through the tap..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Ah, so when it starts to slow down I should add the CO2 before it has a chance to "suck back" ?
Do you use those little CO2 capsules I've seen on eBay ???
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yes and no ....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
i have two ''king kegs'' with different valves on top , both were second hand on egay as there around £60 new,
one is the small co2 capsule around 6g
and the other is a larger refillable cylinder a s30 which holds 880g its much cheaper and less hassle
http://www.s-30.co.uk/yours ''should'' be the smaller capsule fitting ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Brew-Gram-Injection-Bulbs/dp/B001S03JUY
They look alot like the capsules I have for my Air Pistol (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
I'll have a look, but don't remember there being a screw-fitting on the valve.
Worst case scenario is I've gotta drink 37 pints in under a week and replace the lid for next time.
<sigh>
I think I can cope. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Dean,
There are about 20 odd Bulmers / Crabbies / Koppaberg bottles for you at the Rose, there will likely be more than 30 after today because of the usual friday evening and we had a wedding function this afternoon.
I will be at the pub Tomorrow afternoon for one reason or another if you want to pop over & collect the bottles (Bring Bags)
Sounds a plan - let me know what time you're there.
I do have to be on site tomorrow morning but I'm hoping it won't drag into the afternoon (famous last words . . . . )
Quoting: FUBAR
I will be at the pub Tomorrow afternoon for one reason or another if you want to pop over & collect the bottles (Bring Bags)
free stuff from pubs ....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
do ya see any swingtop bottles at the pub ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
OK Mr B my last brew of fruit cider was OK, worked out at 4.5% and was very lively (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
I want to brew a beer with good flavor, tasting something like Pedigree or Timothy Taylor's ?
Got any ideas (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Quoting: F Body
I want to brew a beer with good flavor, tasting something like Pedigree or Timothy Taylor's ?
Got any ideas
TTL is a very hoppy beer ,
and not one you will copy from a kit tbh..
there are shed loads of hops in it a lot of which are added at the end of the boiling...and during fermenting,
pedigree is an easier one to copy ...the woodfordes wherry kit is similar a sort of tasty bitter but no overly hoppy,
http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Woodfordes_Wherry_Beer_Kit.html?gclid=CNeDgdqj37gCFaKWtAodHgUAmQ#.UfvrUByt8rgits probably similar to the kit RK has made,
as a lot of the kits are made by the same brewers [muntons]and then badged up for different markets...
Looks OK at £19.56 but the shipping looks steep (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
I'd guess that it's going to weigh over 1kg (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Shipping :For UK
All UK Under 1kg £3.12
Mainland UK Over £65 FREE
Mainland UK Under £65,
But Over 1kg £6.5
Quoting: F Body
Looks OK at £19.56 but the shipping looks steep
this is often the case, inc ebay..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
you can get the woodfordes kit in wilkinsons if you have one in town,
they will get them in the store, to collect if you order them on line ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)the other option is to find a hb shop locally or somewhere your visiting...
Tried a bit of mine last night (there was no pressure in the keg to push the beer out so I only got about 1/4 pint before it started trying to suck back) . . .
I tastes pretty darn good. Very bubbly at the moment but I intend to leave if for another 2 weeks minimum.
A little cloudy - medium brown in colour.
I'd guess around 1-2% alcohol at the moment (you could taste it was there) . . .
BTW - My keg just has a rubber-top valve on it so I'm guessing a new lid is in order . . .
i would have expected a fair bit of pressure did you prime the beer in the keg with sugar ...?
another lid will enable co2 to be added ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: art b
did you prime the beer in the keg with sugar ...?
Yeah - 76g (it worked out at 2g/pint but I bottled 2 bottles separately and it asked for 80g in total).
Quoting: art b
another lid will enable co2 to be added ...
That's what I thought . . . I'll have a search . . .
Must start ordering some kit this week (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Had a look on Wilko's site - Looks like they have everything I need (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Wilko Fermenting Bin and Lid 25lt
SKU: 0022555
£9.50
Wilko Brewing Sugar 1kg
SKU: 0309419
£2.00
Wilko Cleaner/Steriliser 100g
SKU: 0022658
£1.60
Wilko Hydrometer Loose Wine and Beer
SKU: 0022575
£3.50
Wilko Long Plastic Spoon
SKU: 0022559
£1.20
Wilko Siphon Pack
SKU: 0022573
£2.50
Woodforde's Real Ale Kit Wherry 3kg
SKU: 0207610
£19.99
And free delivery to store.. thoughts?
£23 for all the kit (minus the Ale kit)
Thermometer would be handy.
And you'll need a pressure keg or 40 bottles when it's ready.
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Think I already have a suitable thermometer but will check.
Up to over 20 bottles so I think...hic may have been seeing double (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Paul's got some for me as well.
Might still get the pressure barrel but it's another £20.
Quoting: Incursus
£23 for all the kit (minus the Ale kit)
its ideal,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
saves a fair bit on postage and their stuff if is usually made by youngs ,who have the market share of the market,
some tescos now have a h/b section too..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
minus the Ale kit
Do I still need the sugar if I'm using a kit?
Yes.
Really? Was just reading some reviews on it and a few mentioned not having to add sugar..
http://www.wilko.com/home-brew/woodfordes-real-ale-kit-wherry-3kg/invt/0207610EDIT: For the sake of £2 I'll order it anyway (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Next silly question..is there anything special about the a trial jar or is it just a convenient container to float your Hyrometer?
O.K, let me put it another way. If the kit needs sugar - you'll need to buy it separately. If it doesn't - you won't.
Quoting: Incursus
Next silly question..is there anything special about the a trial jar or is it just a convenient container to float your Hyrometer?
Nothing special but I think the "exact" volumes are used for calculating the alcohol.
As Art said before - if you're not fussed just dump it in the bucket and leave it there !
Ta.
Kit ordered (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Really? Was just reading some reviews on it and a few mentioned not having to add sugar..
a two can kit has enough fermentables not to need extra sugar ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
white sugar will sometimes give a beer a twang due to the way the yeast consumes it ,you can add brown sugars or brewing sugars ,
Quoting: Roadkill
Nothing special but I think the "exact" volumes are used for calculating the alcohol.
As Art said before - if you're not fussed just dump it in the bucket and leave it there !
bang on young brewer...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: art b
a two can kit has enough fermentables not to need extra sugar ..
Mine was a 2-can and still wanted an extra 80g of sugar. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Realizing that I've downed 38 pints in a little over two weeks, I decided to put my next purchase on hold for a couple of weeks (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)
The only excuse I can make is the weather has been very hot (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: art b
a two can kit has enough fermentables not to need extra sugar ..
Mine was a 2-can and still wanted an extra 80g of sugar.
you will only need some priming sugar.(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
which is minimal and can be found in the kitchen...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Realizing that I've downed 38 pints in a little over two weeks, I decided to put my next purchase on hold for a couple of weeks
r u sure,
that seems a
bit bloody excessive (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: art b
Quoting: art b
a two can kit has enough fermentables not to need extra sugar ..
Mine was a 2-can and still wanted an extra 80g of sugar.
you will only need some priming sugar.
which is minimal and can be found in the kitchen..
(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) Well I bought some brewers sugar anyway.
Assuming I get a chance to kick it off this weekend it should be good and ready for Brighton (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: art b
you will only need some priming sugar.
Yup, 80g of it.
I read the instructions, three times. That's what it said.
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: art b
another lid will enable co2 to be added ...
That's what I thought . . . I'll have a search . . .
assuming you have a keg with a 2'' opening ,
wilkos should have a lid for your keg,and the caplets, (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
get chris to have a look when hes there ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Wilko's have this for £19 (no bulbs)
http://www.wilko.com/home-brew/wilko-co2-injector/invt/0022563?VBMST=barrel%20home%20brewingOr eBay has this for £24.49 (with 20 bulbs)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271006442909?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649I'll go for the eBay one as the bulbs are around £4 / 10.
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the new wilko beer kits are two can kits,
and get some good reviews,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Gonna see if I can scam another freebie for my next batch. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
it would be rude not too.....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Picked up the kit this afternoon.(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
And she's off!!
is it ready yet? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
And she's off!!
Ahh, bad luck. Didn't you sterilise everything properly ? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/funny.gif)
is it foaming yet ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Yeah..think so bit of a bulge forming in the lid...
Yurp got a good head on that.
yay....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
you have made alcohol ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
I was toying with the idea of getting a bucket with a tap with an air lock (this is the type my Dad had in his home-brewing days).
The bucket with the Lakelands kit just relies on you "cracking the lid" on the bucket every-now-and-then to release pressure. Seem a bit cheap.
Is there a reason you can't just drill a hole in your lid any fit one of these..?
http://www.wilko.com/home-brew/wilko-airlockrubber-bung-2pk/invt/0240201?VBMST=home%20brewhttp://www.wilko.com/home-brew/wilko-handy-airlock-rubber-bung-2pk/invt/0240202?VBMST=home%20brew
I didn't bother . . . after the initial foaming it regulated itself O.K in the end . . .
i have holes in my fv's to fit an airlock,
it gives you an idea as to how things are going...but not really needed,
just make sure you keep derbis and fruit flies out of the bucket....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Fair enough I wasn't planning on fitting one I was just looking through the older posts on this thread in case I missed or forgot any useful tips (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
any updates...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
hows the test tasting RK...?
Mines gone quiet, not had to release any pressure since the weekend..hopefully ok.
Did manage to get nearly 30 bottles off my family...only asked them last Friday! Piss heads (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
...some of them might be mine... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: art b
hows the test tasting RK...?
Well reminded !
I was worried as there was no pressure in the keg at all. I added the valve-lid for the 8g bulbs and have varied success with those (seemed to be leaking out) ??
I've tightened the valve and put another bulb's worth in and it seems to be holding good pressure. Whereas before all the pressure had gone after 2 pints or less !!??
Definitely would be no good pouring without adding CO2.
Anyway.
The Beer.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/DSC_0024_zps013d07b5.jpg)It takes a couple of minutes to clear after pouring, got a good mid-brown colour and tastes not unlike Banks's (which is one of my current mid-price favourites).
Strength-wise I'd peg it at a solid 4% alcohol . . . maybe even a 4.5%.
Three pints of that and I'm in a similar place as I would be after drinking 4 500ml cans of Banks's.
The initial taste isn't all-that-great but quarter-way down the first pint and it becomes very more-ish. A good "anytime" beer, for sure.
Certainly comparable to Brewery Beer, but obviously not quite the same calibre.
Would definitely do this one again.
7/10. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Certainly looks like beer (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
yup looks prety good ...although the taste is more important ,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Have just started my second batch last night. Went for the same one (accidentally) but it's getting better with age so not an issue.
Think it'll turn out better as temperatures are lower now.
Also think I'll invest in a second pressure keg so I get some over-lap between batches.
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Tasted ok to me...but then I'd already had a few jars (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Ahh well reminded ta. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Ordered (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Will pick up a keg this weekend as well as 1st Hydrometer test this weekend and maybe "bottling"
Clip arrived today! (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Just in time as the hydrometer reads 1010 and I have to say she tastes mighty fine already and pretty clear too (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Picked up a keg today as well, just to make things a bit easier.
i reckon you two are hooked on homebrewing....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
I've nearly finished my first batch. Worrying as the second is nearly two weeks behind.
Definitely hooked, do need another barrel to get the overlap.
Got bought another beer kit from Sammy for our anniversary . . . This one's a 1-can and needs 1 KILOGRAM of sugar to be added !!!
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It'll be going in the bucket straight after the current batch is barreled (in about a week).
I'll be needing a cellar, soon. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
nice one ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
with the one can kit,
you need to add a brewing sugar rather than plain white ,
it ferments differently and gives the beer more body and no sugary twang,
you can also brew it with less water to give a better tasting beer,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Barreled mine over the weekend and it had a nice warm up yesterday so will pop it out in the garage for the rest of the week to cool off
then try and wait.. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Quoting: art b
you can also brew it with less water to give a better tasting beer
Interesting. I always use brewing sugar as it's pretty cheap, anyway.
You reckon go for 35 pints instead of 40 or less than that ???
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Quoting: Roadkill
Or eBay has this for £24.49 (with 20 bulbs)
How quickly are you going through the bulbs?
I wasted about 3-4 getting the technique right to start with (plus the valve wasn't as tight as it could be).
I've used 9 in total and guess I'll need another 2 to get the last bit out (it'll keep for a few days with no CO2 at all so could always let the last few pints run out without pressure ?) - making 11 - but the next one I reckon I'd need 8.
Righto, will order the new lid etc after payday. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/grin.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
I wasted about 3-4 getting the technique right to start with (plus the valve wasn't as tight as it could be).
I've used 9 in total and guess I'll need another 2 to get the last bit out (it'll keep for a few days with no CO2 at all so could always let the last few pints run out without pressure ?) - making 11 - but the next one I reckon I'd need 8.
you should be using less than that.(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
the natural carbonation should enable around half the contents to be dipensed,
then co2 will need to be added...around 4 bulbs would be about right,
it may depend on how much beer your drawing, in that the natural carbonation cannot keep up with the amound drunk....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Quoting: art b
it may depend on how much beer your drawing, in that the natural carbonation cannot keep up with the amound drunk
Yeah you piss head (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah you piss head
i never ''quite'' said that ....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)
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Hmm. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
I started drinking my first batch on about the 3rd of August, IIRC.
I reckon I'll finish the keg tonight (I'm already having to angle it towards the tap) . . .
37-38 pints in 26 days . . . about 1.5 a day.
Not bad. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Weird, really as most nights I have 2-3 and on the weekend more like 4-7 . . . There was a few days where I didn't have any so I suppose it evens out.
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Kegs been in the garage for a week to chill out a bit...is that enough? can I bring it back in the house or does it need to stay cold?
Ordered a C02 lid and bulbs as well, just in case.
Quoting: Incursus
Kegs been in the garage for a week to chill out a bit...is that enough?
Give it a taste tonight. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
can I bring it back in the house or does it need to stay cold?
Mine's in the office end of the garage - about 22*C in the day and 17*C at night - it's been fine.
Well it's still got a couple of weeks maturing to do but I may have a taster.
Nice head!! Still a bit cloudy but tastes pretty good, the head (once at a regular height) stayed till the bottom of the glass as well (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Now to leave it be for another week or 2 (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)
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Quoting: Incursus
Now to leave it be for another week or 2
Another pint or two accidently poured itself into a glass over the weekend...tastes gooood. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
So much pressure though! Anymore than a 1/4 turn on the tap and I just get a jug of head, oh well best things come to those that wait (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
So much pressure though! Anymore than a 1/4 turn on the tap and I just get a jug of head,
so different to RKs ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
it can be the cheap taps they have very little adjustment when pouring, you could try letting a bit of pressure out of the top (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: art b
it can be the cheap taps they have very little adjustment when pouring,
Could be though I have plenty of adjustment, just that past 1/2 turn it trys to blast into space and it's foam party time (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/manynanas.gif)
Quoting: art b
you could try letting a bit of pressure out of the top
Thought about it but I will be filling a few fizzy pop bottles next week for Brighton so that should take a good chunk of pressure away, also my C02 lid hasn't arrived yet.
Quoting: Incursus
Thought about it but I will be filling a few fizzy pop bottles next week for Brighton so that should take a good chunk of pressure away, also my C02 lid hasn't arrived yet.
fair enough (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
My First batch is long gone (barrel is cleaned ready for number two) . . . Batch #2 is currently at 1014 so I reckon another day or two and that'll be ready for barreling.
Batch #3 is set to go in the bucket straight after #2 comes out and it's had a clean.
Seems weird drinking brand-label beer, now. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
My First batch is long gone (barrel is cleaned ready for number two) . . . Batch #2 is currently at 1014 so I reckon another day or two and that'll be ready for barreling.
Batch #3 is set to go in the bucket straight after #2 comes out and it's had a clean.
Seems weird drinking brand-label beer, now.
good to hear it ...its a bit special opening something you have made..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
home brewing has come on a lot since the60's/ 70's so im told,
when the kits were cheap and info was thin on the ground
the tinterweb has greatly improved the amount of help available to get some thing palatable. [youtube is full of stuff(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)]
there are some very good specialist beer type kits out there that cost a bit more but get great results,
which is probably the way to go once you have mastered the basics, cleaning temps, bottling etc (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Had another 1/2 pint tester last night, much clearer now, will have been in the barrel 2 weeks on Friday (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Will start putting some in bottles for Brighton and family distribution over the weekend.(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Had another 1/2 pint tester last night, much clearer now, will have been in the barrel 2 weeks on Friday
theres little, much better than pouring beer from a barrel and paying nowt..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Batch #2 is currently at 1014 so I reckon another day or two and that'll be ready for barreling.
Was at 1012 last night so I'm hoping tonight . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Just bought a second keg with the Bulb injector cap and a metal injector (I don't think the plastic one I currently have will last long - it's a bit $hit).
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171060854736?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Am ready full over-lapping production. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
looks ok ....
ive one of the plastic injectors and its lasted ages,
bigger jugs ftw....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
(I don't think the plastic one I currently have will last long - it's a bit $hit).
Yeah mine turned up doesn't seem great quality but will see how it goes.
Ordered a capper as well - £10 from Wilko's
Quoting: art b
theres little, much better than pouring beer from a barrel and paying nowt..
Well not entirely as the initial equipment outlay brings this batch up to around £1.80 a pint but the next batch should be more like 50p / pint (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: art b
ive one of the plastic injectors and its lasted ages
That's the one I've got but the threads are already a little chewed up. I'll keep it as a spare - sensible with two kegs on the go.
3 x 2Ltr bottles filled and 3 pints for me...about a 3rd left in the keg still ridiculous amount of pressure and head, took me ages to fill the bottles. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
3 x 2Ltr bottles filled and 3 pints for me...about a 3rd left in the keg still ridiculous amount of pressure and head, took me ages to fill the bottles.
will be time to consider another beer...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Indeed. There's only about 4 inches left in the keg...still loads of pressure but at least the foam to beer ratio has finally improved.
I'll start another one off when we get back off hols..probably another Wherry, stock pile a load of it in bottles and then try something new. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
FYI the Wherry kits are currently on offer in Wilko's at £16...so I stocked up (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Kegs been in the garage for a week to chill out a bit...is that enough? can I bring it back in the house or does it need to stay cold?
Ordered a C02 lid and bulbs as well, just in case.
yup the period of letting it chill is supposed to allow the co2 produced,
to absorb back into the liquid..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
and chilling will make the beer clear by slowing down any yeast activity...
my keg of ''gaggin for it'' has been in the garage for 2 weeks on the cold concrete floor and is nice and fizzy and a lot clearer than it was 2 weeks ago..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
FYI the Wherry kits are currently on offer in Wilko's at £16...so I stocked up
thats a good price ..beats getting it posted too..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
i do like the wherry beer..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
FYI the Wherry kits are currently on offer in Wilko's at £16...so I stocked up
Will try to have a look tomorrow at the one in Bletchley (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Meanwhile . . .
I started my second yesterday at 3 weeks mature. Very good, just like the last . . . got about a pint out before the pressure dropped (like the last) so cracked the lid to get a few pints out before using the CO2.
Will happily do this another time but am on the look out for something different next.
The third batch is now two weeks mature. It's a one-can kit. It's O.K, but really nothing special . . . it tastes like home-brew whereas the other tastes like a shop-bought one.
One thing the one-can kit has, though, is pressure. Even carefully pouring a pint produces 50% head . . . and I had to release pressure several times as the keg was proper bloated after just a day of it being in there.
Have no intention of doing this one again - it's O.K - but that's it.
I made a little rack to put my kegs on last night . . . .
It's a pretty sight . . .
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yup looks (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
poor design with no drip tray ....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
In fairness, they were just off-cuts from the shed.
I'm toying with the idea of getting another keg so will make up something a bit more permanent then.
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Quoting: Roadkill
Will happily do this another time but am on the look out for something different next.
allegedly wilcos have some good new kits in at around £16
milestone dark galleon..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Started off my next batch of Wherry yesterday, unfortunately the 2 bottles I have left probably wont last out till it's ready for drinking... poor planning on my part (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
I'm planning on priming in the keg, then using it to fill a load of bottles, this will mean the keg maybe half empty or less for the second stage...do I just use one of the CO2 jobbies?
Quoting: Incursus
I'm planning on priming in the keg, then using it to fill a load of bottles, this will mean the keg maybe half empty or less for the second stage...do I just use one of the CO2 jobbies?
you will need to top up as the pressure drops ,
or a vacuum will form and air will get pulled in through the tap...
just thinking aloud ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
if you pressurised the keg after filling it,
with co2 caps you should then be able to fill bottles,
the carbonating sugar [which you would add in solution] to the keg,in the beer will carbonte the bottles as there stored..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
a roundabout way but could work ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: art b
the carbonating sugar [which you would add in solution] to the keg,in the beer will carbonte the bottles as there stored..
That's my thinking, just think it may be easier than putting sugar in each bottle and using the syphon to fill the bottles..
Quoting: art b
if you pressurised the keg after filling it,
with co2 caps you should then be able to fill bottles,
I was just thinking of leaving the lid off for the bottle filling and letting gravity do the work, then put a co2 cap on if there is any left in the keg...or I'll just find some more bottles and start the next lot of beer off. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
I was just thinking of leaving the lid off for the bottle filling and letting gravity do the work, then put a co2 cap on if there is any left in the keg...
That should work. CO2 is heavier than air so as long as we're not talking ages it shouldn't do any harm.
?
I'll let the expert add his 2c, though.
EDIT
Unless the beer, being "flat" without added CO2 would go off in the bottles as they'd be some air in there ???
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Quoting: Roadkill
Unless the beer, being "flat" without added CO2 would go off in the bottles as they'd be some air in there ???
Well the mixture will have just been primed with sugar so should create it's own CO2 in the bottle, I'm just using the keg as a bottling bucket but may not bottle it all.
http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter1-3.html4. Combine beer and priming sugar. The best method for preparing the beer and priming sugar solution is to use a separate container the same size as your fermentor as a "bottling bucket." Clean and sanitize it and pour the priming solution into it. Next, siphon the beer from the fermentor into the bottling bucket. Don't simply pour the beer into the bucket, and don't let the beer splash as you siphon it in. Instead, put the end of the siphon under the surface of the beer as it fills. The swirling motion of the beer as it enters the bucket will be sufficient to evenly mix the priming solution into the beer without aeration.
If you don't have a bottling bucket, you can gently pour the priming solution into the fermentor and gently stir it. Allow the sediment in the fermentor to settle for 15-30 minutes before proceeding. You can fill the bottles using the bottle filler attachment on your siphon.
5. Bottle. Carefully fill the bottles with the primed beer, place a sanitized bottle cap on each bottle, and crimp it using the bottle capper. At this stage it is helpful to have a friend operate the capper while you fill the bottles.
Ahh, yeah. That should work. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
yup as chris says ..the keg becomes the bottling bucket,
so no problem with the beer in bottles or the keg,
the beer is still fermenting slightly when you bottle ,and the addition of sugar kicks it off again..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Started off my next batch of Wherry yesterday
Lively batch this one, came home on Monday to find the lid on the verge of going pop! Still distorted even after I let the pressure out (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Lively batch this one, came home on Monday to find the lid on the verge of going pop! Still distorted even after I let the pressure out
its strange how they all ferment differently (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
just make sure its not too warm [unlikely now] as a fast ferment isnt good for taste ,
Temp is holding at around 20*C so should be fine.
To be fair I had left it for over 30 hours (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
its the leaving things alone thats the hard part ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
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Quoting: Incursus
Just in time as the hydrometer reads 1010
Only 1014 this time after 2 weeks maybe because the weather has been a little cooler?, to be fair the kit say it should be at 1014 so hopefully ok. I would have left it another few days but I wouldn't have the time to bottle it for a couple of weekends
All bottled and in a warm place for a couple of days now.
Start point was 1040 so I reckon about 3.5% for this batch.
Will kick off the next Wherry batch (destined for the keg) hopefully on Tuesday or while I'm "Working Smarter" on Thursday though I do need to pick up a large bucket and a aquarium heater before then now that the average temp in the brewery is well below 18*C.
That lot should keep me in beer till the new year..maybe (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
I got my next 2-can kit yesterday . . . It's a St. Peter's Ruby Red Ale (4.3% Alc they reckon).
Free of course . . . it turns out that before Lakeland's M.K begin stocking a particular Beer kit they first ask me to sample and assess it !
It's the best place Sammy's ever worked !!! (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Will be purchasing my 3rd Keg later this month . . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
St. Peter's Ruby Red Ale
Is that the beer Asda sells? Looks like it's in a medicine bottle..
All St. Peter's Ales come in funny Oval bottles. I've not seen the Ruby Red on the shelves before, though.
Quoting: Roadkill
Will be purchasing my 3rd Keg later this month . . . .
I'm going to buy a "King Keg" for my next one as my new, intended set-up will resemble that of a pub. (I'm planning on having 3 kegs in the shed, but hopefully running pipes and taps into the garage).
FYI
If this works I'll be looking to sell my other standard kegs after they're empty.
(One's had two batches in, the other one batch. Both have Co2 Lids.)
Quoting: Incursus
I do need to pick up a large bucket and a aquarium heater
Ordered the heater £7. Will pick up a 40l bucket from Aldi tomorrow (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
If this works I'll be looking to sell my other standard kegs after they're empty.
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I'll take the free one you got from Sammy (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Fine, but the C02 lid cost £13 ! (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
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Maybe. I'll see how the next lot goes as pouring a pint from the keg with the last lot took about 5 minutes (or I got a jug of foam) and was a pain in the arse, this time I will use the CO2 cap which I hope will regulate the pressure somewhat.
Trick is to pull back the rubber band that acts as a pressure release valve to stop the pressure building up too much.
I did this with my 1-can kit and it made it much more manageable.
Never had that problem with the 2-can kit, though.
Quoting: Roadkill
Trick is to pull back the rubber band that acts as a pressure release valve to stop the pressure building up too much.
yup
good point
the rubber band wont really give until the keg is at bursting point..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
My plan (long term) at the moment is to switch to the King Kegs and fit pressure gauges to the lids so I can monitor the pressure . . . . that way I can observe what the pressure is when the kegs starts to bloat, reduce it and will know when it's ready for injecting more CO2 before it creates a vacuum.
Basically, as I'm aiming for a 120-pint stockpile I need to keep the beer in tip-top condition to maximise the life span.
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Quoting: Roadkill
I'm going to buy a "King Keg" for my next one as my new, intended set-up will resemble that of a pub. (I'm planning on having 3 kegs in the shed, but hopefully running pipes and taps into the garage).
the lad never does things in halves.....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
a few people do that, run pipes from the garage into the kitchen....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
you may need to consider cornies ,which are s/steel soft drink dispensing vessels that have a co2 distribution system, it all gets a bit involved then ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
heres some ideas...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=homebrew+corny+keg+setup&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=02dcUqXyGcPG0QX75oHgBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1448&bih=862&dpr=1you would probably have to consider pipe cleaning if you have runs of piping..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Wow ! That's a whole new can of worms !!!
Going for Corny kegs and a CO2 tank and regulator set is the way forward but would take up more space than I can justify.
I plan (in the most simplistic way possible) to mount 3 Kegs on a shelf in the shed. Maintain pressure using 8g CO2 bulbs individually. Fit a suitable pipe over each of the taps (about 24" long) leave the taps on the keg open at all times but fit a new tap like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290986270802?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 to the other end and mount the tap on the wall.
Do that for each one so theoretically you'd only need to venture out to the shed to add more pressure every 5-6 pints per keg.
There's a guy selling "ready made" pressure gauges for King Kegs on eBay . . . but I figure can make it far more pimpin'.
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I can fit 3 kegs, side-by-side, in the shed on a shelf, so will run a pipe from each tap (I'm fitting ball-valves) to a back-plate that will mount a tap for each keg . . . .
. . . Also, each keg will have a pressure take-off that be connected to its own gauge which i'll mount above its corresponding tap.
That way I can keep tabs on each keg without going outside and know when I'm close to zero pressure (and air getting in) in each barrel . . hopefully minimising the risk of it going off.
Plus it'll be a damn cool set up with 120-pint capacity !!!
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Quoting: Cunning Plan
http://geekologie.com/2013/10/tabletop-beer-brewing-machine-the-size-o.php
That's pretty cool, but I get the impression that most home-brewers not only like to make their own beer, but also like to make their own equipment, too.
You'd have to make a few thousand pints to get your money back on that !
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looks clever ...but at that price...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
and as rk says;
making stuff and thinking about techniques is a great part of the hobby...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
ha... its very misleading as it only does the mash and boil
you still need to add yeast and ferment it yourself.
So essentially it takes 4 or 5 hours which is more than it takes me to do my all grain beers ,
It's also very small and makes it look like it puts it in a ''keg'' for you ready to drink - it doesn't!
you can do all that yourself for less that £60....
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Started the "St. Peter's Ruby Red" last night . . . It came with a sachet of Hop Powder - (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Damn that stuff is strong . . I gave it a quick sniff (out of curiosity) and nearly fell over !!!
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The kitchen smells great this morning, though.
This one, so far, is the "realest" smelling kit . . . It reminds me of the smells I smelt when I visited the Greene King brewery.
Here's hoping for an awesome Beer !
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much like cooking ...the better the ingredients the better the beer (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Here's hoping for an awesome Beer !
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My Hops arrived from the malt miller yesterday and the aquarium heater last week. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Just need to pickup a big bucket today to start the next brew.
welcome to the darkside ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/devil.gif)
i feel like i have converted you both ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/drunk.gif)
Quoting: art b
welcome to the darkside ...
i feel like i have converted you both
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Started the next batch on Saturday with an aquarium heater set-up. This lot will get a Hop tea infusion at bottling (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
The last lot bottled 2 weeks ago is still slightly cloudy but has good carbonation and taste.
only 28 bottles remain for the firework party...My sister in law drank it all at yesterday.. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/confused.gif)
the hop tea will improve the taste ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
ya sis inlaw sounds like a winner (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: art b
the hop tea will improve the taste ..
Indeed I haven't decided whether to open both vac-pack bags and do a blend or just one of them...either way I think you said they freeze well?
Quoting: art b
ya sis inlaw sounds like a Wineo
To be fair she only had two, my brother and Dad had a bottle each as well. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Quoting: art b
ya sis inlaw sounds like a Wineo
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i usually just use one ,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
do one brew with one type then the next with another and you will get a taste of each type
it may be hard to tell a difference ..
Fair enough I'll start with the Fuggles....cos I like the name (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
I came home to transfer batch #4 (St. Peter's Ruby Red) into the barrel on Friday only to find another kit waiting for me !!!
So batch #5 (St. Peter's I.P.A @ 5.5%) is in the bucket !!!
This only makes about 34 pints but has exactly the same amount of ingredients so's shaping up to be awesome !
When I barreled the Ruby Red the smells where epic. I've not tasted the St. Peter's ones yet, but I'm really hopeful. They certainly seem to the the high-end of the 2-can kits.
BTW - I finished drinking batch #3 last night . . . It was the 1-can kit Sammy bought for me. The last pint was moody and the one before didn't taste right (but I still drank it).
It wasn't terrible, and it did grow on me but I'd never consider a 1-can kit again.
FYI - With batch #5, that makes 194 pints of homebrew. All the kits have been free or a present . . . I've only spent out on the kegs and lids . . . even my bottles, capper and steriliser, sugar has been FOC from Lakelands . . . my new favourite shop that I've never shopped at !!!
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that sammys worth keeping then....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Yeah, apparently she brought the IPA home by mistake - she was supposed to be picking up another St. Peter's . . . . . . So I'll be getting that one as soon as my bucket's ready to be emptied !!!
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pity Lakeland don't do King Kegs . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
these s/s mini kegs look interesting for taking beer away in .....(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/easy-keg.html
Quoting: Roadkill
pity Lakeland don't do King Kegs . .
you should be suggesting it ,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
as a chief product tester ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Good idea ...... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
something else to try from lakeland...
http://www.lakeland.co.uk/44118/Moonshine-Four-Candles-Bitteri'd not buy it ,
but as we have a [free] product tester here......(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Apparently Sammy's boss tried this one (or one of the in-bag ones) when I did my first 2-canner.
He said it didn't compare to the one I did.
It strikes me as way too simple to make anything good.
i would have thought as much...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
although they get good reviews...
Yeah, I double checked and it was that one he did. It was his first attempt so may've cocked it up somehow but I struggle to see what you could do wrong with one of those ?
I got my 5th batch (St. Peter's IPA) in the keg last night and put batch 6 in the bucket (a St. Peter's Golden Ale).
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By the LAN I should have 2 kegs nicely matured and another very close to mature.
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hmmmm ...the st peters beer are a bit special..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cool.gif)
LAN ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
the ipa takes a while to mature....[no feckin chance then...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rofls.gif)]
heres part of a review...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
This was the first kit I tried. I like IPA and bought it because it was a 2 can kit and the box looked nice (poor reason I know!) I did it as per the instructions but left it in the FV for 2 weeks which is a bit longer than it recommended. I bulk primed in a secondary FV before bottling.
When I came to test the gravity I realised I'd thrown the box away after making it up, forgetting that the instructions were on it so I don't know how close the finishing gravity was to the target.
After 2 weeks the flavour was fairly good but it had a really overpowering bitter aftertaste. I left it another few weeks and it improved a lot so I got stuck in.
Having not tried the bottled version before, I bought a few from Ocado and found that the kit version was much smoother after about 2 months. The bottled one was much more bitter but lacked the depth or any of the floral taste I got from the kit.
I saved the last five bottles for another three months and cracked one open this weekend and it was superb, miles better than the bottled version. I was gutted I'd drank it all. I'll definitely get this one on again. I'm also keen to have a go at the ruby red kit they do as well.
Noted. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
I always give them longer in the bucket and try to allow at least three weeks before drinking.
My Ruby Red is fast approaching 3-weeks mature and I've resisted starting it . . . for now.
Quoting: Incursus
Fair enough I'll start with the Fuggles....cos I like the name
Mmm just poured the first couple of pints, the hop tea has certainly changed the taste, for the better. Still a little cloudy though..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
I had a pint of the Ruby Red last night . . . I had one nearly two weeks ago but it was still cloudy . . .
The one last night was awesome !
Clear, a little fruity, yet hoppy, too. I closed my eyes and I could've been in a cosy little tavern some place.
It's taken nearly 4 weeks in the barrel to get to this stage but it's been worth it.
The IPA is nearly 3 weeks mature, again is still cloudy and as Art posted, is a little Bitter. I don't plan to try this again until mid-December.
The Golden Ale stalled a bit in the bucket and has needed some encouragement to get it to 1014 . . . she was at 1016/1015 last night so I'm hoping to barrel it tonight . . . . it's been in the bucket, now, for over 2 weeks . . . !
Quoting: Roadkill
I had a pint of the Ruby Red last night . . . I had one nearly two weeks ago but it was still cloudy . . .
The one last night was awesome !
Clear, a little fruity, yet hoppy, too. I closed my eyes and I could've been in a cosy little tavern some place.
Cool, now if you can get Lakeland to stock it before Xmas I'll add it to my letter to Santa (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
I've passed on my review . . . (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Guys are any of you home brewers interested in 450ml Grolsch Swingtops?, we now sell them in the pub.
The rebate for the bottles from the brewery is rubbish (£3.54 per 16 bottles) but Anne has agreed if I give her a fiver for the same this is cool.
Any of you guys interested? (only if you want them yourselves, no selling them on please (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)) same price £5 per 16 bottles and includes a handy Crate I think too!! which Is probably worth a fiver by itself (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
1 case is available now.
Quoting: FUBAR
The rebate for the bottles from the brewery is rubbish (£3.54 per 16 bottles) but Anne has agreed if I give her a fiver for the same this is cool.
Any of you guys interested? (only if you want them yourselves, no selling them on please ) same price £5 per 16 bottles and includes a handy Crate I think too!! which Is probably worth a fiver by itself
1 case is available now.
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Yeah I'll take that crate and another when available (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
I think I'll take one, too.
I'm not a fan of bottling but it'd be handy to make up one specific batch to cover me when I go to other peoples party's.
No rush, though. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
good price on the bottles,(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
i would have some but i have plenty and rarely use um (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
I had a pint of the Ruby Red last night . . . I had one nearly two weeks ago but it was still cloudy . . .
The one last night was awesome !
Clear, a little fruity, yet hoppy, too. I closed my eyes and I could've been in a cosy little tavern some place.
It's taken nearly 4 weeks in the barrel to get to this stage but it's been worth it.
The IPA is nearly 3 weeks mature, again is still cloudy and as Art posted, is a little Bitter. I don't plan to try this again until mid-December.
The Golden Ale stalled a bit in the bucket and has needed some encouragement to get it to 1014 . . . she was at 1016/1015 last night so I'm hoping to barrel it tonight . . . . it's been in the bucket, now, for over 2 weeks . . . !
it all sounds good
it can take a while for the brews to mature ...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/can.gif)
if you get a brew that wont ferment out or gets slow
you can add a yeast nutrient,
the werry can often get stuck after a week at around 1014 and a teaspoon of nutrient will help the yeast get working..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: art b
the werry can often get stuck after a week at around 1014
If you follow the instructions your supposed to bottle at 1014 (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Just started a Wilco own brand as the werry has gone up to £22 (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
If you follow the instructions your supposed to bottle at 1014
Just started a Wilco own brand as the werry has gone up to £22
it will go down to 2012 as far as i know.
the wilco stuff gets some good reviews, (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
i switched my brewing to all grain as its cheaper per pint,
and is an interestin precess,
but tbh i/we dont drink that much per week ... (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
will make it all worth while at xmas though ..(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah I'll take that crate and another when available
Quoting: Roadkill
I think I'll take one, too. No rush, though.
Ok cool, i'll sort them out at the pub, not sure how I'm going to get them home yet...
Quoting: FUBAR
Ok cool, i'll sort them out at the pub, not sure how I'm going to get them home yet..
I'm sure I can pop in for a pint or two...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Oh and could probably pick up the bottles at the same time if it helps.(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: art b
yeast nutrient
Got a linky ? (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
not sure how I'm going to get them home yet...
Can collect - but it won't be the Caddy this time. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: art b
yeast nutrient
Got a linky ?
Might get some myself, the latest batch went nuts for the first 12-24 hrs but hardly any pressure build up since (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
I'm normally relieving the bucket of pressure for a good 3 days with the Wherry..
Might pick up some
finings as well, the Wherry only really starts to clear when I've nearly finished the barrel (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/lol.gif)
My St. Peter's Ruby Red is now about two-and-a-half months old . . It's matured lovely and is crystal clear with good colour.
The St.Peter's IPA, as that review suggested took two months to clear and mature. We tried some after a month at the LAN and it was cloudy and unpleasant (ask Ryan) but now it's very clear and pretty damn strong !!!
If I did it again I'd only add 2/3 of the hop powder (just preference).
The St. Peter's Golden Ale has cleared and tastes good. It's just over a month old, so will be left another fortnight to mature before starting properly.
My next brewing plan is to get another 2 buckets so I can do three batches at once . . . I figure I'll save a load of time on cleaning and preparation and will also save on sterliser (not that I pay for it) . . . It'll also mean that I only have to put up with the buckets in the house for two week as opposed to 3 x two weeks.
The only downside is that there'll be a short period where I'm beer-less waiting for a batch to mature but I'll make sure that I use at least one batch of the "Milestone" kits as these tend to clear and mature enough to drink within 10 days . . also stocking some beer in bottle should carry me through.
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I see Tesco are doing St Peter's stuff <
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£31 though.. nearly double what I normally spend.. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
I've got one barrel of Wilkos Ale + Fuggles that's just finishing off a 14 day chill out in the Garage, I will probably bring it in tomorrow as I'm out of beer!
I've also got a Wherry that's been in the bucket for 13 days..It was good and active for at least 10 of those days.. It normally slows down after only a few days so not sure what I've done differently... I'll test the Gravity tomorrow and maybe barrel/bottle. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
I'm not sure if Lakeland's are stocking it yet . . . I passed on my review to Sammy last night.
If they do stock it Sammy can get you a discount . . . . 20-25% I think. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
I'm not sure if Lakeland's are stocking it yet . . .
Can't see it on the website but will keep an eye out.
Quoting: Roadkill
If they do stock it Sammy can get you a discount . . . . 20-25% I think.
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Quoting: Incursus
I've got one barrel of Wilkos Ale + Fuggles that's just finishing off a 14 day chill out in the Garage, I will probably bring it in tomorrow as I'm out of beer!
Hmm definitely needs at least another week.
Quoting: Incursus
Can't see it on the website but will keep an eye out.
Apparently they're not planning on stocking it . . . yet.
This is good news for me as it means there'll be more options for me to product test !
Quoting: Roadkill
This is good news for me as it means there'll be more options for me to product test !
Hmm not quite sure...I'll have to try another.. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Came home to find this waiting for me last night.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/DSC_0319_zps926838aa.jpg)Free of course - Thank you Lakelands (my favourite store that I've never shopped at !!) (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Not tried these before . . . Have now got three kits waiting for keg space ! I need more buckets !!
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Just ordered 2 more 25L Fermenting bins and 2 lots of Yeast nutrient from Wilco - £18.38 delivered !!
Impressed. (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Just had a St Peters Golden Ale kit delivered from Amazon ( bigger jugs) £26. Hopefully get a chance to kick it off over the next week (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/cheers.gif)
Got my first Cider kit on the go . . . . another freebie courtesy of Lakelands of course.
It's a Pear and Strawberry one, apparently. Makes 10 Litres.
One odd thing, though . . It asks for 12 x 750ml flip-top bottles !!!???
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I've got some 750ml wine bottles but I'm guessing they won't be strong enough ?
The other option is the Grolsch bottles I got from Ryan . . but they're only 500ml, so I'd need 20-21 and I only have 16 (have asked for another crate from Ryan).
Never heard of 750ml flip-top bottles before, though ???
FYI. 20% off Homebrew stuff at Wilko (http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/up.gif)
Well, the Cider's all gone, drank that after my last 3 kegs ran out.
Speaking of which the "system" worked perfectly . . . in fact, seeing as there were 3 kegs to choose from, even drinking 2-3 pints on an almost daily basis was fine as the pressure in the kegs naturally built up meaning I only used 8 CO2 bulbs across the whole batch ! (and that was towards the end when the liquid volume was really low).
Anyhow -
I got bought 2 Ruby Ale kits for Christmas but held-fire until I had a third kit which came in the way of a Milestone's IPA (£14 after discount from Lakeland).
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All three are now in their barrels and building pressure nicely . . . the IPA, I think, will be a slow-maturer as the pressure is staying around the 2-3 psi, whereas the Ruby's are both at 7psi after less than a week.
I'm just finishing off a free 25-pint brew-in-the-bag jobbie that Lakeland made up for Christmas which was never drank . . . surprisingly not bad, considering, the taste is O.K, but there's little "depth" . . . still, it was free and already made ! I just had to leave it to settle for a couple of weeks after it was kicked about by Samantha.
Quoting: Roadkill
I'm just finishing off a free 25-pint brew-in-the-bag jobbie that Lakeland made up for Christmas which was never drank . . . surprisingly not bad, considering, the taste is O.K, but there's little "depth" . . . still, it was free and already made ! I just had to leave it to settle for a couple of weeks after it was kicked about by Samantha.
Turns out there was another one made up that was never started.
BAM !
More free, ready brewed Beer !
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1193_zpsjxjykof4.jpg)I was careful with this last one, so I didn't shake it up too much . . . . Hopefully it'll be clear by Friday as that's when the one on the left will run out.
This new one should carry me nicely to when my 3 kegs are matured.
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I've seen the brew in a bag reviews on forums...
People said they would not buy them again...
Wot do you think...(http://mkb-cc.yanksrule.co.uk//Forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
I don't know much they cost but they do taste cheap.
I think if you were just getting into brewing or didn't plan to do it regularly (so didn't want to invest in the kit) then it'd be fine.
These have been brewing/maturing since November so are probably more mature than most would drink them at - which helps.
So, in short, if you've got the kit - do it properly, it's worth it.
If not, it's a good starting point - just leave them to mature as much as possible.
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My home-bar "system" has now seen nearly 250 pints over 2 batches of 3 kegs through it with no issues.
I've got 3 more lots in their respective buckets that'll be ready to barrel early next month.
:up:
On a side note my last brew was barrelled on 16th February and the last few pints in the last keg are still coming through good and crystal clear . . . making it over 8 months in the keg with no refrigeration or CO2 added.
Pretty impressive in itself, I reckon (and surprising it even lasted that long) !!!