Picked up this little beauty at the Jukebox show last weekend . . .
It's a Seeburg Wallbox . . basically a remote for a Jukebox.
Didn't have an immediate plan for it but quickly found that you can connect it up to an iPod so that the buttons on the front select tunes from the iPod . . .
So, just an introduction -
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These date from the mid-1950's so the glass is in incredible condition !
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First job, really, is to give the main cover a good polish so off it came.
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Going to do a bit of research and see if I can get it powered up to test the mechanism - then go from there.
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fabulous bit of history :cool:
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*Watching*
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very cool
Took it all to pieces last night . . . Gave the front a quick polish but it'll need a bit more elbow grease . . .
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Discovered I have two small broken springs that help the music listing sheets "flap" (these springs are about $2 each).
Also discovered 2 wires that had apparently been cut . . . the switches they'd been cut from appear to be the coin/credit switches . . . THe unit was designed to take 5c, 10c and 25c coins to play 1,2 and 6 plays respectively.
The two wires appear to be to the nickel and dime switches so I'm guessing this was done so the unit rejected the lower value coins and only played for quarters . . . makes sense - it's an easy way to adjust for inflation with minimal agro.
The coin mech appears O.K - just a little stiff.
This is all fairly irrelevant, though, as I need very little for its planned purpose.
There's a company that apparently allow you to install an iPod inside the unit and make selections using the original hardware (buttons) . . . the kit is $109 but I need to do a bit more reading before going further . . . .
http://www.cdadapter.com/download/wipod.pdf
From initial investigation, everything appears to be there . . . I do want to power it up to check the bulbs but we'll see . . .
Interesting . . . seems I need a power supply (duh) but this guy has connected the iPod to a Bluetooth sender . . . . Does anyone know if a sound bar system would talk to one of these things ? I'm guessing it would ???
Cooool !!!
http://www.cdadapter.com/download/rtstrips.pdf
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 06:55:12 PMiPod to a Bluetooth sender . . . . Does anyone know if a sound bar system would talk to one of these things ? I'm guessing it would
Yeah should do. Some thing like this.. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Transmitter-TaoTronics-Portable-Wireless/dp/B00Q2EGQQU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446663878&sr=8-1&keywords=bluetooth+transmitter
Sound quality wont be the best and you might not be able to control it via the sound bar remote, unless you can find a transmitter with AVRCP. :chiny:
:chiny: http://www.amazon.co.uk/BTT009-Bluetooth-AVRCP-Receiver-Transmitter/dp/B00FPP9U4W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1446664645&sr=8-4&keywords=bluetooth+transmitter+avrcp
I understand very little of what you just said. :P
Sound quality isn't critical . . . the original plan was just to have the thing as an ornament so to get it playing anything would be just awesome . . . I'm hoping I can rig it to play using the money slot (I'll have a jar of quarters on the side next to it)
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EDIT ***
I've just began to enter the 21st century and have read an article about Sonos . . . . I'm guessing this set-up would speak to a Bluetooth transmitter actached to an old skool iPod O.K as well, yes ?
(Sonos sounds cool, BTW - music in every room - awesome).
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 07:21:23 PMI'm guessing this set-up would speak to a Bluetooth transmitter actached to an old skool iPod O.K as well, yes
Actually no, Sonos has no Bluetooth capabilities.
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 07:21:23 PM(Sonos sounds cool, BTW - music in every room - awesome).
Tis freakin awesome! I've now got 3x Play:1's a Play:3 and the Playbar..
I can have Teamrock playing over the whole house or any of my music (I've uploaded my entire collection to Google Play Music), or Katie can be listening to Radio 2 upstairs while I'm listening to something else downstairs. The Playbar works seamlessly with the TV, even passes through the TV remote signals if your bar is blocking the sensor on the TV (like mine is).
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 07:21:23 PMSound quality isn't critical . . . the original plan was just to have the thing as an ornament so to get it playing anything would be just awesome .
I've got a Bluetooth wireless speaker somewhere, if you wanted to test something out.
Quote from: Incursus on November 04, 2015, 08:01:44 PMActually no, Sonos has no Bluetooth capabilities.
WiFi only, then ?
Hmm. Blows that idea, then. There I was thinking I was catching up with things . . . think I'll stay put in the 1980's. :P
Quote from: Incursus on November 04, 2015, 08:23:56 PMI've got a Bluetooth wireless speaker somewhere, if you wanted to test something out.
Noted, ta.
I've had a response from the manufacturer who indeed ship to the U.K so that's a positive start !
O.K.
O.K.
Re. the Sonos . . . Layman's terms now . . . So if you want to use it via the router, you use a "bridge" (as it only has connections for that)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sonos-ZoneBridge-BR100-Wireless-bridge/dp/B000X1TS54/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1446672117&sr=1-2&keywords=sonos+bridge+black
But, am I understanding the "Connect" correctly ? It looks like you can connect that straight to an existing source (Analog Audio R/L) but it also replaces the bridge as it can connect to the router as well ??
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sonos-CONNECT-Wireless-Hi-Fi-formerly/dp/B001G7PLTQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1446672117&sr=1-5&keywords=sonos+bridge+black
??
Does that then mean you can play music via the Analog connections and from a wireless device (i.e. Old Skool and New Skool) ?, whereas the bridge is just New Skool ?
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I'm glad I'm good at other things 'cos if my life depended on my knowledge of modern tech I'd be long dead by now :lol:
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Incursus on November 04, 2015, 08:01:44 PMActually no, Sonos has no Bluetooth capabilities.
WiFi only, then ?
Yeah pretty much, as I've mentioned Bluetooth isn't ideal for streaming high quality audio. After a very quick bit of research I couldn't find a solution for streaming Jukebox (oldskool iPod) to Sonos that doesn't cost silly money. (Sonos CONNECT)
Dean,
you'll probably need something like this custom font installed on your PC:
http://www.1001fonts.com/bohemian-typewriter-font.html
More here:
http://www.1001fonts.com/search.html?search=typewriter&page=1&items=10
for when you want to write new labels for the song pages.
You only really need the bridge if you can't place a speaker near your existing router, John Lewis were giving them out for free when we bought our Playbar as you don't really need it anymore. The CONNECT does connect your old skool stuff.. though a pricy option just to connect a iPod imho.
is this the sort of thing?
Wireless Audio Receiver
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundmate-M1-Wireless-Wifi-Audio-Stream-Receiver-DLNA-Airplay-Sharing-Music-US-/391259510699?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
£20
or
Wireless audio Hub
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-wam250-wireless-audio-hub/p1202130?sku=233146353&kpid=233146353&s_kenid=54d8be3b-b8aa-cb89-a24c-00001922c0ac&s_kwcid=402x387114&tmad=c&tmcampid=73
£45
So the speakers can work together, without a bridge or connect as long as one of the speakers is near the router ?
I'm starting to get it . . . pity they're not battery powered to be truly wireless . . . I reckon a hefty Li-ion battery would last a while . . . :P
Ryan :
Cool, thanks. Funnily enough, the actual typed cards that came out look really good (not typed-looking at all).
I've also found this : http://www.1001fonts.com/flottflott-font.html#gallery
Which will work well in the display window next to the coins slot . . . my Unit proudly bares the name "Stan's" next to the "25c" note . . . I'm sure I can come up with something amusing . . . I was planning on compiling a spoof food menu for my diner booth with a separate spoof drinks menu for my bar table.
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Quote from: Incursus on November 04, 2015, 09:42:09 PMThe CONNECT does connect your old skool stuff.. though a pricy option just to connect a iPod imho.
probably cheaper to buy an iPod touch.. 😜
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
So the speakers can work together, without a bridge or connect as long as one of the speakers is near the router ?
Correct.
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
I'm starting to get it . . . pity they're not battery powered to be truly wireless . . . I reckon a hefty Li-ion battery would last a while . . . :P
Indeed.. The holy grail. 😁. Probably find an old Prius battery from somewhere... :rofl:
Quote from: Incursus on November 04, 2015, 10:03:18 PMprobably cheaper to buy an iPod touch..
I don't think - ironically - that'd work with the adapter kit for the unit (!!!)
:(
Next question - where can I get a mains transformer 25-30 V AC - 2 Amps ???
I might as well be discussing brain surgery . . .
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/2x24v-100va-chassis-mounting-mains-transformer-a24qk
???
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/2x25v-80va-toroidal-transformer-a98qh
Not a clue . . .
Quote from: FUBAR on November 04, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
is this the sort of thing?
Wireless Audio Receiver
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundmate-M1-Wireless-Wifi-Audio-Stream-Receiver-DLNA-Airplay-Sharing-Music-US-/391259510699?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
£20
or
Wireless audio Hub
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-wam250-wireless-audio-hub/p1202130?sku=233146353&kpid=233146353&s_kenid=54d8be3b-b8aa-cb89-a24c-00001922c0ac&s_kwcid=402x387114&tmad=c&tmcampid=73
£45
Not sure..they both look like receivers rather than transmitters with Bluetooth or iPod connection.
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 10:28:58 PM
Next question - where can I get a mains transformer 25-30 V AC - 2 Amps ???
I might as well be discussing brain surgery . . .
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/2x24v-100va-chassis-mounting-mains-transformer-a24qk
???
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/2x25v-80va-toroidal-transformer-a98qh
Not a clue . . .
AC/AC? :chiny:
I assume so . . . Basically a wall plug on one end, connect to the wallbox the other . . . the manual for the adapter asks for a 2A inline fuse but I'm guessing that's because U.S 2-pin wall plugs don't have fuses in them . . . I'm assuming a U.K plug with a 2A fuse will do the same (or better).
I'm thinking the toroidal transformer though probably the 30V 2A version. Probably worth running it past Steve..
They don't look too easy to "install" . . . I'd except some way of mounting them to a surface ???
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 09:58:36 PMCool, thanks. Funnily enough, the actual typed cards that came out look really good (not typed-looking at all).I've also found this : http://www.1001fonts.com/flottflott-font.html#galleryWhich will work well in the display window next to the coins slot . . . my Unit proudly bares the name "Stan's" next to the "25c" note . . . I'm sure I can come up with something amusing . . . I was planning on compiling a spoof food menu for my diner booth with a separate spoof drinks menu for my bar table.
Look to Fallout Maybe for some 50's-esque tongue-in-cheek inspiration. if I see anything while playing "4" next week i'll screenshot it for you. On that note you could use "Nuka Cola" :)
This one looks most like the one in the kit :chiny: :rofl:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2A-SECONDARY-120VA-TRANSFORMER-WITH-30-0-30-VAC-OUPUTS-/250970010874?hash=item3a6efa74fa:m:mmgNicvv6FvZZrWsWjZ4ZGg
Quote from: FUBAR on November 05, 2015, 07:01:36 PMOn that note you could use "Nuka Cola"
Awesome.
Quote from: Incursus on November 05, 2015, 07:53:00 PMThis one looks most like the one in the kit
Yeah, It does . . . . I'll have to text the titted one as I haven't a clue.
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This should do you:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/2x25v-100va-toroidal-transformer-a31qj
Although it's a big boy:
Height x Diameter (mm) 45 x 91
Weight Kg 1.10
VTX-146-100-225: http://www.vigortronix.com/ToroidalTransformers-DualPrimary2x115V.aspx
You'll need to connect the two primaries together in series, and the secondary windings in parallel.
P.S. Try not to electrocute anyone... :grenade:
Hmm, had a measure up . . . I'm not sure that transformer is going to fit inside the existing case . . . there's a chassis-mount one there already (which I'm guessing will be redundant ??) so was thinking of installing the new one there.
How do you secure the toroidal transformers to something ? They don't look like they have any way of fixing them down ?
The description says they come with a fixing kit which I believe consists of appropriately sized washers spaces and a bolt (based on other toroidal transformers I've seen). I couldn't comment on the existing one unless the kit instruction says to remove it.
Quote from: Roadkill on November 04, 2015, 07:21:23 PM
I've just began to enter the 21st century and have read an article about Sonos . . . . I'm guessing this set-up would speak to a Bluetooth transmitter actached to an old skool iPod O.K as well, yes ?
(Sonos sounds cool, BTW - music in every room - awesome).
BTW I've just been looking at the new SONOS Play 5 for a work colleague, noticed it has an auto-detecting 3.5mm audio line-in connection..and thought of you. 😉 Only one in the range that does though..
Quote from: Incursus on February 24, 2016, 12:51:11 PM..and thought of you. 😉
Cheers, Darlin'.
Must admit, this one's on the back burner, as the next planned task is to polish the casing (which will, in turn, propel dirty polish in all directions at great velocity) hence I'm waiting til I have some space back in the garage.